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elbalesWonderful. An anti-net-pedophilia group calling itself Warriors for Innocence has dropped a big rock in the LJ pond and, it seems, gotten a number of journals and communities suspended.
Child abusers are disgusting. I find the idea of "erotica" about child rape to be so full of ick that there's no place to start. But I also get uneasy whenever people start in with the "[fillintheblank] is more important than free speech" bit because it's very easy to fall down that slippery slope.
These people got LiveJournal scared by going to advertisers; perfectly legitimate tactic. But with 13 million journals and counting to deal with, LJ admin threw up their hands and started doing blanket suspensions based on interests. The folks at WfI are so smugly confident that they are doing God's Work in All the Right Ways that they're refusing even to acknowledge that they've hurt people--like survivors of molestation whose support groups have just gotten deep-sixed. "Oh, I'm sure you can get your journal reinstated," they say. Not true, apparently; LJ doesn't have the resources to review journals one by one, and one person commenting on WfI's web site has said that LJ Abuse is not going to reinstate any suspended journals for fear of legal liability.
I know these people are trying to do what they think is right, but anyone who wants to get child porn off the Internet should be working in partnership with law enforcement and with people who actually have a fucking clue how the Net works.
GAH.
ETA: If you can't connect to the link above, you can probably safely assume that Journalfen got Slashdotted. So to speak.
Child abusers are disgusting. I find the idea of "erotica" about child rape to be so full of ick that there's no place to start. But I also get uneasy whenever people start in with the "[fillintheblank] is more important than free speech" bit because it's very easy to fall down that slippery slope.
These people got LiveJournal scared by going to advertisers; perfectly legitimate tactic. But with 13 million journals and counting to deal with, LJ admin threw up their hands and started doing blanket suspensions based on interests. The folks at WfI are so smugly confident that they are doing God's Work in All the Right Ways that they're refusing even to acknowledge that they've hurt people--like survivors of molestation whose support groups have just gotten deep-sixed. "Oh, I'm sure you can get your journal reinstated," they say. Not true, apparently; LJ doesn't have the resources to review journals one by one, and one person commenting on WfI's web site has said that LJ Abuse is not going to reinstate any suspended journals for fear of legal liability.
I know these people are trying to do what they think is right, but anyone who wants to get child porn off the Internet should be working in partnership with law enforcement and with people who actually have a fucking clue how the Net works.
GAH.
ETA: If you can't connect to the link above, you can probably safely assume that Journalfen got Slashdotted. So to speak.
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Date: 2007-05-30 06:32 am (UTC)Not only that, but they seem to have hit lots of communities that weren't about child molestation or child porn at all.
"fetishconfess" for example, got taken down. It's a BDSM community, not a pedophilia community.
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Date: 2007-05-31 07:06 pm (UTC)Lame.
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Date: 2007-05-30 02:13 pm (UTC)quite a few fanfic journals have been hit as well, probably because of story content or warning tags.
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Date: 2007-05-31 07:06 pm (UTC)Megalame.
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Date: 2007-05-31 08:35 pm (UTC)Paranoia is ♥.
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Date: 2007-05-31 02:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-31 07:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-06-15 12:53 am (UTC)So the reason why child erotica is okay is because it's a fictional child, whereas actual child pornography is a real child being at least objectified, if not victimized?
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Date: 2007-06-15 04:41 am (UTC)Also, as I said, that whole First Amendment slippery slope just makes me uneasy. Where does it stop? Personally I wish the answer was "In the local psychiatrist's office" for every person who gets turned on by the thought of adults having sex with children.
And don't ask me where the line gets drawn wrt age of consent and "this 17-year-old is mature enough to handle a sexual relationship; that one isn't" and related issues, because I don't know. Really. I mean, technically my first boyfriend could have had charges filed against him, because I was not yet 18 and he was 22. So I have no room to point fingers and say, "Well, we as a society have decided age-of-consent laws are necessary and good, so we should all obey them."
Wow, tangent woman is me.
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Date: 2007-06-15 05:23 am (UTC)No, seriously. They really said that. To a comment writer who turned out to be a survivor of abuse. There are no words for that level of OMGWTF.